Honestly thanks for correcting me, I didn’t know that at all. Now I won’t go spouting that when I’m like “They could be out there!!!!”.
Although I’m going to stick with my original theory because of A) Denial and B) the general presentation of the Guiding Hand in the story. I mean Adaptus wasn’t even using his own body, so who knows how much a physical form really means to them still.
(Feel free to correct me on this as well, though)

@ovletoak good point?? i mean i guess its possible pharma was older than he appeared but him and ratchet seemed to be implied to be around the same age IMO. no freaking clue at this point.
